. >> that was president obama speaking this morning as part of his two day bus tour to promote his plan to lower the cost of college education. but consider this: the cost of college is certainly not the only part of our education system that needs reform. once upon a time, america arguably had the best public education system in the world. that's not the case. well place first place finland and last place south korea. so how do we reform our schools? joining us to discuss this from washington, d.c. is amanda ripley, author of the book the smartest kids in the world and how they got that way. amanda thank you for joings us. >> thanks for having me. >> they pretty much faced a pretty serious shock when they got there why are those systems so different than ours? >> you know finland is considered the utopia of education now where kids are getting an outstanding results in math science, where koreans work night and day, these are two different places and somehow they have gotten to the top of the world in education. >> south korea is different, because when you think of the difference betw